Standard members Using the users blog as well as Premiums

Category: Zone BBS Suggestions and Feedback

Post 1 by Gingy (the musical gingy with the loads of music boxes) on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2008 2:32:54

Hello. I am annie. ell I wanted to look into the bl, when I saw that only prmiums can post. I mean, there are standard members, like me who can't afford a premium membership. I can understand that premiums have more special features like 2 minutes audio profile, and a few other games, but also standard members have thaughs to post. So I think this is quite unfair.

Post 2 by Blue Velvet (I've got the platinum golden silver bronze poster award.) on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2008 10:04:34

Before you buy a premium membership, you might want to pay for some typing lessons.

OK, now that I got that bitchy comment out of the way, here comes another one. Actually, I'll just suggest you read my comment on another user's topic about wanting premium privileges for free.

Post 3 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2008 10:48:23

good 1 becky, i hate when people bitch about the fact they don't have a feature, and standard members should have it.

fact is, if you don't have the money, you don't have the feature

you have to pay in life you know, be grateful you have anything

Post 4 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2008 10:49:57

okay.... maybe that was a bit harsh, but seriously. you are far from the first

Post 5 by Shadow_Cat (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2008 13:41:05

Amen to Becky and Daniel. If standard members had the same features as premium, there'd be no incentive to buy premium. And as a premium member, I for one would be royally ticked if I paid for something that other users got for free.

Post 6 by ghost (Generic Zoner) on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2008 15:38:38

There has to be something that Premium members get that standard don't or else what would the point be for premiums to pay 25 dollars? If there was no point for us to do that then we wouldn't and the Zone wouldn't get money and wouldn't be here and hence you wouldn't have shit not ever the free things you do have. So be greatful.

Post 7 by Gingy (the musical gingy with the loads of music boxes) on Thursday, 13-Nov-2008 4:18:32

of course I agree, that premiums have some special feature like games or a longer audio profile and to download vicemails. but I think te blog should be there for everyone, not only to read. that is my oppinenean

Post 8 by Big Pawed Bear (letting his paws be his guide.) on Thursday, 13-Nov-2008 5:21:54

if you want a free blog, go to livejournal. there free advice.

Post 9 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Thursday, 13-Nov-2008 7:36:58

yeah, or blink nation, myspace, blogspot, um... can't think

Post 10 by Gingy (the musical gingy with the loads of music boxes) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 1:21:31

anyway. I am at blink nation, but anyway there are still some features left tha only premiums have, if we just take the blog out, does that matter? no it doesn!t

Post 11 by Big Pawed Bear (letting his paws be his guide.) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 7:27:58

you're arguing for atrition of premium features, first it's the randomiser, now bloggs, paws off! sorry, but we pay good money for features!

Post 12 by Darth Vader (Luke, I am your father.) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 7:38:27

I can understand about premiums getting more features, but like the creater of this post said the blog should be for everyone to post on, not just for premiums!

Post 13 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 12:16:09

i agree with post 11, quit the moaning all ready

Post 14 by Shadow_Cat (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 13:08:13

What makes you two think the blog should be any different than any other premium feature on this site?

Post 15 by Big Pawed Bear (letting his paws be his guide.) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 13:32:48

they could blogg in a board after all. now that is free. heeheheh

Post 16 by Click_Clash (No Average Angel) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 14:40:26

Well, you two, the blog is just one of the features on this site that the staff sees fit to put into the premium category, and like I told Joe on one of his topics, not everything in life is free. And indeed, there are other accessible blogs on the web, including LiveJournal, BlogSpot, WordPress, MySpace, and Facebook. Besides, from what I've seen, not many people use the Zone blog anyway.

Becky

Post 17 by The Elemental Dragon (queen of dragons) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 15:01:52

precicly y complain about something this site is letting us pay for when you can get a much better blog for free at live journal?

Post 18 by ghost (Generic Zoner) on Saturday, 15-Nov-2008 15:41:23

Quit bitching if you don't like the way the site is run move to a different one that gives you all the things you want in life. ... Good luck finding one. But please quit bitching we're paying for this so if your so determined to get the same then fucking pay now shut up and stop complaining.

Post 19 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Monday, 17-Nov-2008 23:14:09

Honestly, Hitseltic Girl, I don't see anything wrong with paying for extra features. Although I am not against this idea, I still believe that one should pay for extra features on this site. When you think about this, $25 is really not that much.

Post 20 by shark (the zone's favorite, Canadian Great White) on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2008 15:56:48

well, I would charge the price of a premium membership for this advice. but for today only, it's on sale at a savings of 100 percent. I won't even ask for your credit card, email, msn, or pay pal details! how's that for an offer you can't refuse?
ok, so here's my advice.
So what you wanna do, is get yourself a livejournal account. ok? right? you see? hmm? Everybody with me so far? ok, good good.
next, take the u r l associated with your lj account, and put it in your text profile that you get to write in here on the zone for free!
*chear* briliant idea huh? That way, if you're poor, or ultra cheap, and don't want to buy premium on the zone, therefore making use of the built in blog feature, there's a work around for it.
You can even put it in your website portion of your profile, so that users don't even have to go through the time trouble and excessive effort to copy and paste the address to your lj into their clipboards and new web page addresses. all they have to do is press enter on it. Hell you're getting a seriously good deal on advice today aren't you? Look at how frugal you're being! lol.

Cam

Post 21 by andrew1989 (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2008 18:45:53

Ok, here's my opinion. Yes, there are some pretty big restrictions on standard members, I've stated this before. But I agree with all who have suggested going to get another blog. LJ is great, in my opinion. I used to have one, then just stopped writing in it, but it's a great service. you can even get your own domain and point it to your journal. Another pretty cool looking service (although i've never used it, just read other people's) is blogger, which last time I checked uses your google account info. That is to say, if you have a gmail or have registered your email address with google, it will work with the same signing username and password.

The only thing I think the zone is being ridiculously cheap on is audio profiles. What do you get, about a hundred k of crappy audio quality? I mean, at least make it 96k audio if you're going to give people 20 seconds. But just go get a blog somewhere else, and like shark said (lol,) reference it in your profile or website link.

Post 22 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2008 1:13:41

Agree with andrew. A lot of times, you can't even understand what people are saying on their audio profiles, unless you record it from your computer.

Post 23 by Gingy (the musical gingy with the loads of music boxes) on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2008 6:05:52

ok, sure there are a few other blogs. and thank you darth vador. at last someone who agrees. I thaught I would be the zones idiot lol but tht was right. and with that lj thing I will try, thanks

Post 24 by laced-unlaced (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2008 8:42:31

i agree with andrew and monster person. :). i should have come up with that

Post 25 by Harp (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2008 12:49:51

64K is perfectly adequate for audio profiles if they're recorded properly, if they're not then that's your problem and not the administrations. Upping the bit rate would in fact make no difference anyway because I suspect that the ones that you say you find hard to understand are ones recorded on the telephone and in those cases, it is the quality of the phone line, or in a few cases the handset itself being used for the recording that is the trouble, not the quality it is archived at afterward.

I fail to see how the admins are being cheap either. The option of a twenty second audio profile is offered to you for no cost what so ever. They don't have to offer audio profiles at all.

Indeed it strikes me from a quick read of this board, and others that have gone up recently of a similar ilk, that it isn't the sights administrators that are being cheap...

Dan.

Post 26 by andrew1989 (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2008 15:01:58

Ok, Harp, you're right in that some phone lines, especially cellphones are crappy and that's what makes for the bad audio quality. 64k? I thought it was 56, but ok. Is only good if you record at, say, 22khz, mono. I have mine up right now as 22khz stereo, and it already sounds bad... I shudder to think how it would sound if I were to upload it at 44k stereo. ugh! Oh, and I stand corrected, my profile is actually 137 KB right now. So let's ust give it 150 KB and leave it at that. Although having said that, i wish they would put in a feature where, depending on the quality rate of the file, you would get more time, and you had to have the file within a certain size. So if you had one over the phone, you could have it in 24Kbps, 8KHZ mp3 and get about 50 seconds, just for an example.

Post 27 by rat (star trek rules!) on Sunday, 23-Nov-2008 10:54:31

well, look at it this way. some people would really knock their files down to get as much time as possible. think audio profiles are bad now... lets not go to waht it would be like then.

Post 28 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Sunday, 23-Nov-2008 16:51:32

I think it's perfectly fare to have the zone users blog to be a premiums-only feature.

Post 29 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Tuesday, 25-Nov-2008 14:03:47

I think premium is something that I'm not going to pay for any time soon. I further more don't post in a blog, so there's that side of it two.
As for the idea of being able to have it be file size limited for free members and premium, and not minutes, i do agree with that part of it for audio things.
When I had premium, I never much used the extra features offered to me.
If you use them, then fine, pay for it. But if not, why bother?
Rant over.
John

Post 30 by changedheart421 (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Tuesday, 25-Nov-2008 15:08:18

lol love these people complaining about the blogs. why, because none of them can spell good enough to even start writing one.

Post 31 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 27-Nov-2008 15:02:11

My spelling sucks, I'll freely admit that. Besides that, I'm one of those audio people that would rather talk blog, instead of r write blog.
Live Journal only has i think a c certain number of posts you can do that with, even i with the pay for features.
John

Post 32 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Sunday, 30-Nov-2008 15:50:40

lol..I don't think spelling counts with blogs.

Post 33 by andrew1989 (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 02-Dec-2008 10:57:11

Unlike the zone blog, live journal has a spell checker.

Aditionally, if every standard member had a 20 second audio profile, which they don't, it would take up 464.25 mb collectively. Considering their server probably has several gb of space, I don't see what the problem is.

Post 34 by andrew1989 (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 02-Dec-2008 10:57:45

also if we think about the fact that myspace probably has a larger database of pictures alone...

Post 35 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Tuesday, 02-Dec-2008 15:44:11

Dang, how did you calculate that?

Post 36 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Tuesday, 02-Dec-2008 16:27:31

true but I don't think it's a matter of storage, but rather a way to make money off some users.
Stuff needs to be funded folks...so some survices are gonna cost you.

Post 37 by andrew1989 (Account disabled) on Thursday, 04-Dec-2008 10:53:37

pretty simple really. One of these days I should make a scrip tto go in and download every single audio profile, and see how large the folder really is. I bet it's way less than 1 gb.

Post 38 by margorp (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Friday, 05-Dec-2008 16:53:38

I'd bet it's more than 1 gb.

Post 39 by illumination (Darkness is history.) on Saturday, 06-Dec-2008 0:36:30

No, it can't be more than 1 gb because some of the MP3 profiles are low quality, like 8000 khz.

Post 40 by Q (Take my advice, I'm not using it anyhow.) on Sunday, 07-Dec-2008 10:29:49

Well, the fact, whether you like it or not, is that regardless of how much bandwidth and webspace audio profiles take up, bandwidth and servers and ... everything else needed to host and run this site, cost money.
Live with it, or live without it, as simple as that, really.

Let's look at this whole issue from another side:

Let's say one of you (who moan about privellages for premiums), has something to sell, something that potentially can provide an income and help keep the roof over your head.
Now a third party comes along, desiring the stuff that you have on offer, (web space, food, cd's, ... anything).
As you sell it, you are gonna want money for that, right?
What will you do if the third party doesn't want to pay money for what you have to sell, but decides to moan and squeal about not being able to get it for free?
Will you just give it away, depriving yourselves of a much-needed income?
No, of course you won't.

So, as harsh as it may sound, everything in this life costs money, even the cloth with which you wipe your ass once you're finished on the toilet.

Post 41 by Striker (Consider your self warned, i'm creative and offensive like handicap porn.) on Sunday, 07-Dec-2008 12:18:13

damn strate Q!